I use a number of devices everyday typically{6-10} each with 4-6 ml tanks. I’m not a sub ohm vaper typically but I do refill my tanks at least 3 times a day and I use 18-24mg even if I sub ohm. I’m pretty sure that adds up to way over Michael Siegal’s “1 ml per day”. Most sub ohm vapers I know blaze through 15+ mls in a few hours/day dripping.
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It seems RJR is now taking a page from our playbook and giving the “commonly found in foods” spiel. We are once again getting a list of ingredients however, and frankly I’m sitting here cringing at what I used to inhale. Anyone have a clue what setting any essential oil, of which there are quite a few, on fire and breathing it does? And of course there’s the other garbage as well. http://www.rjrt.com/commercial-integrity/ingredients/cigarette-ingredients/

As to the diacetyl argument, it’s a summation of a quote by Jennifer S. Pierce et al. in ‘Diacetyl and 2,3-pentanedione exposures associated with cigarette smoking: implications for risk assessment of food and flavoring workers’ and it goes like this: “Further, because smoking has not been shown to be a risk factor for bronchiolitis obliterans, our findings are inconsistent with claims that diacetyl and/or 2,3-pentanedione exposure are risk factors for this disease.”

Thats good , but I don’t like a ‘tobacco company’ involvement !

They are already free on the NHS since early January this year. A device made by British American Tobacco I think.

Correct ! I’m running a 0.5 ohm coil. This ends up being about 35 watts. There is a competing to see who can make the most ‘smoke'(vapour) , which is stupid. I was driving behind a Buick the other day and every 30 seconds or so a BIG PUFF of vapour would come out the window.

This is the latest news, from Canada.

I never have Exaggerated in my points, but this article tears every point we lay people use to engage thoses with letters after their names to take us seriously. As to my Zeal I am heartbroken that this was writen from a vapers perspective and am Surprised theblikevof Famous ANTZ have not jumped on this:Yet.
Will I still jumpnin on certain threads sure but am carefulnnit to usecany of thevabove as it is not worthy of factual debate.

Maybe use “components” rather than “ingredients”. Technically each flavouring should be a separate ingredient. For example, a long island ice tea might have 3 components (alcohol, cola and juice) but 8 ingredients (where each type of alcohol is listed separately).

It’s fair to say they contain glycol, glycerol, flavourings and optionally nicotine. It’s important to force detractors to specify the component rather than the system, when they say “e-cigarettes cause XYZ”. As for what appears when you heat the liquid, well no consumable on the market has to state that on the packaging. Too many variables.

Doing some sub ohm squonking for about the past two weeks. So far, it seems I use ~ 3ml daily. Using evods & MTL I use ~ 1.5ml daily. Can feasibly see a heavy sub ohm user using two to three times more than my moderate use. So, yes agree that sub ohming could use ~10ml+ daily.

So purely empiric evidence, but seems like passive vaping/vaping actually has some sort of benefits for asthmatics, at least, in our case. Could be a complete coincidence too, but we’ve found it pretty interesting.

I am a vaper for 4 months and I am still afraid that vaping will kill me sonner than smoking… I assume that this fear comes from all the fear-mongering through media and ANTZ…

Vaping MIGHT kill me to… We don’t know…

Why not?

Well, Farsalinos is just parroting the Establishment line.He is after all just another one of the same old chemistry crowd that doesn’t know jack about infections and sees no need to do so.

This is excellent, and exactly my intention for the post! 🙂

The third one is my favourite: it makes the point clearly, powerfully and transparently. I don’t see how it would hurt the message to say that instead, at all.